Straight answers. No brochure.
Painters and decorators in Christchurch. What quoting actually involves, what makes a job run long, and what having painters in your house is like.
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The five that matter.
Five questions. The practical ones come after.
Is the quote the price, or the opening bid?
It is the price. Nobody writes a number until we have stood in the room and looked at what is under the existing paint.
What would change it is finding something that could not be seen: damp behind a wall, a bad repair, timber past sealing. You hear about it the day it turns up, with the options, before any extra work starts.
What makes a job run over?
Three things, and only one is weather. The first is the surface being worse than it looked. The second is drying: a coat that has not gone off will not take the next.
The third is worth asking any painter: what else they have on. Not the number of jobs, but who is answerable for yours, and whether you hear a date is moving before it moves.
Will you disappear halfway through?
The way it happens is not deliberate: a bigger job appears, the crew splits, and your house becomes the one that gets the odd afternoon.
What stops it here is that the owner is on the tools. Whoever decides what gets taken on has to be on it every morning. If the honest answer is a month away, you hear that at the quote rather than being squeezed in and abandoned in week two.
And if any part of a job ever needs somebody outside this business, you are told who and when before it happens, rather than finding a name you do not recognise on your driveway.
Will I get the same people every day?
Yes. Bevan Cochrane, who owns it, and Jordon McGregor, qualified. The same two faces on the second morning as the first, so you explain the job once and the person you explained it to is holding the brush.
The trade-off is honest: a bigger outfit can put five on a house and be gone in a week. This one takes longer, and the same eyes have been over every surface.
Can I change the colour halfway?
Up to a point. Before anything is opened, freely. After the first coat is on, going lighter usually costs an extra coat and going much darker often does not.
The better move is to decide late and decide once: put the real colour on a large card, stand it against the wall it is going on, and look morning and evening. Colours move enormously between north and south facing rooms.
When we come out.
Half an hour at the house, and nothing to sit through. It exists for arithmetic rather than salesmanship: no photograph shows what is under the existing paint, and that is what sets the price.
We walk the rooms and look at what the last coat is sitting on. Outside it is a lap of the house, the timber, and how anybody reaches the high parts.
We ask what has been done to it before, whether anything has gone wrong with it, and how you use the rooms. Then we tell you what it needs, what it does not, and whether any of it can wait.
It is also the half hour in which you decide whether you want this painter in your house. The number is worked out afterwards and sent written down, and if it is more than you wanted we say what could come out.
What he looks at
A hand on the wall, not a tape
What he asks
How you use the rooms
What he tells you
What can wait, and what cannot
The number
Written down, afterwards
What to have ready. It is not much.
Four things help and none of them is essential. The list of what you do not need is longer.
Helpful: a rough idea of which rooms or which parts of the outside, any colours you are thinking about, anything that has gone wrong with the place before, and whether there is a date you are working towards.
Not needed: measurements, a colour decision, a paint brand, a specification, quotes from anybody else, or a tidy house. A room full of furniture is normal.
And if there is something you would rather nobody touched or moved, say so at the visit rather than on the first morning. It is a much easier conversation without a ladder in the hallway.
Helpful
Which rooms, roughly
Helpful
Any colours you are circling
Not needed
Measurements or a spec
Really not needed
A tidy house
Living in it while it happens.
Knowing which room is out of action, and when it comes back, is most of what makes the work tolerable to live with.
We work through the house in sections rather than all at once, so there is somewhere to eat and sleep throughout. The order is set with you before the first morning, and if a room has to be usable on a particular night, say so.
Waterborne paint is touch dry within the hour and low in smell, so a bedroom painted in the morning is usually one you can sleep in that night.
The two rooms that genuinely interrupt a household are the kitchen and the bathroom, because a fresh ceiling wants a day without steam under it. We plan those around your week, and it costs nothing if we know early.
How it moves
Room by room, not all at once
Before the first morning
Say which room you need
Sleeping in a painted room
Usually the same night
Kitchen and bathroom
A day without steam
What you get told, and when.
Most of the worry about having work done is not the work, it is not knowing where it is up to.
When it is booked
A date you can plan onYou get a date rather than a position in a queue. If a date has to move you get a new one, not an apology.
The night before
Every single timeA short message confirming the morning and what the first day looks like. Nobody should be listening for a van at half past seven without knowing whether it is coming.
When it changes
On the day, not laterWeather, or something found under the old coat. You hear it the same day, with what the choices cost, and nothing extra happens until you have picked one.
When it is done
Looked at togetherYou hear that the last coat is going on before it goes on. Finishing is something you are part of rather than come home to.
And if it goes wrong.
Nobody asks this on the phone because it sounds like distrust. It is the most reasonable question on the list.
Say it while the gear is still in the house. A mark, a run, a cut line that wandered: a small fix on the day and a much bigger one once the gear has gone. The useful thing is not politeness, it is speed.
We do not sign a job off from the doorway on the last afternoon. Nobody can judge a wall while the drop sheets are down, so we walk it with you after all of that has gone.
And if something turns up after the van has gone, ring the same number. The person who answers painted it and remembers the room. Not a favour: the part of the job that has not been finished yet.
Best time to say it
While the gear is still here
The walk round
Daylight, lights off, together
Afterwards
The same number, the same person
What a fix is
Part of the job, not a favour
Having us in the house.
Eight small ones. Keys, the dog, the parking, and what time the van turns up.
Do you need a key?
Only if you want us there when you are not. Plenty of jobs run with somebody home and plenty run on a key or a lockbox. We agree which before the first morning.
What about the dog?
Tell us on the first morning and we shut doors behind us without being asked. The two real risks are a gate left open while gear is carried in and a dog through a wet skirting board, both avoidable if we know.
Where does everything go while you are working?
Into the middle of the room and under cover, unless it is empty enough to work around. We move the wardrobes, beds and sofas. Worth doing yourself the night before: anything sentimental or with a plug on it.
Where will you park?
On the street unless you would rather we did not, and off the drive if you need it. Say if there is a permit zone or a shared drive: day one is easier than day four.
What time do you start?
Usually between seven thirty and eight. If that is too early because somebody is sleeping or works nights, say so and it moves.
Will there be a trailer outside?
A van, and on an exterior sometimes scaffolding or a trestle. No skip: a painting job produces surprisingly little rubbish and what there is leaves in the van at the end of each day.
Do I need to tell the neighbours?
On an interior, no. On an exterior it is worth a word, particularly with a shared boundary or scaffolding up for a week.
Can I just leave you to it?
Yes, and most people do after the first day or two. The only thing worth being around for is the start of each new room, in case something needs a decision.
Afterwards.
The first month is when a finish is at its most vulnerable and almost nobody is told that, which is why scuffs in week three feel like a failure rather than a fact about paint.
Modern waterborne paint is touch dry in an hour and not fully cured for two to four weeks. Avoid pushing furniture hard against it or taping anything to it.
Every job leaves leftover paint behind, labelled with the room. In two years that pot is worth more than the tin: a mark is thirty seconds with a brush if the paint is in the cupboard, and a repaint if it is not.
When it eventually wants doing again, what needs it first is not the walls. It is the trim, the wet areas and whatever faces the weather. A wash and a coat rather than a whole job.
The first month
Two to four weeks to cure
The leftover pot
Labelled with its room
What goes first
Trim, wet areas, weather side
Next time round
A wash and a coat
Money, dates and the awkward ones.
Six that come up at the end of a phone call, usually with an apology in front of them.
Why is there no price list?
Because a square metre rate would be a guess, and always wrong in the same direction. Two rooms of identical size can be a day apart depending on what is under the paint, and no number from a description knows which yours is.
A rate per square metre also implies the money is in the paint, when most of it is labour: preparing, protecting, setting up.
Why should I not just take the cheapest quote?
Sometimes you should, and if two quotes describe the same work take the lower one. The problem is that they usually do not, and the difference is almost always in preparation, the part you cannot inspect afterwards.
Read both for what each says about washing, filling, sanding and sealing, and how many coats go on what. If one is silent on all of that, the gap between the numbers is your answer.
What happens if it rains for a fortnight?
On an exterior we stop, and you hear it from us. Nobody can coat wet cladding, and a painter who works through it is producing a finish that will fail early.
Interiors carry on regardless, which is why a job with both often gets sequenced so there is inside work to move to.
What if I have already bought the paint?
Fine, and it happens often. We check whether it is right for that surface and whether there is enough. Interior wall paint bought for a bathroom ceiling is the common one, and finding it in the shed beats finding it on a wall.
Where the product suits the job it goes straight on. Where it does not, we tell you what it is actually good for so it does not get wasted.
Is it worth doing it in stages?
Almost never, if the whole thing needs doing. Each stage pays again for setting up and moving furniture, and the joins between stages tend to show, because paint from two different years is two different colours.
The exception is a genuine budget ceiling. If it comes down to half a house done properly or all of it done thinly, take the half.
How do I know the prep actually happened?
Look at it before the paint goes on. That is the honest answer and the only one worth anything: a prepared wall and an unprepared one are identical once painted, and completely different the day before.
Run a hand across it. It should find nothing. Look along it towards a window rather than at it, and every ridge, patch and old seam shows as a shadow. A minute, and the most useful thing you can do.
Before you ring.
Most enquiries die in the thirty seconds before anybody picks up the phone. Six answers so yours does not.
Is my job too small to bother you with?
Ring and ask rather than deciding on our behalf. A small job on a house that might want more later is a sensible place to start, and if it is not worth a visit we say so.
What do I actually say?
What you can see, and where. That is enough. "The hallway is marked up and there are cracks above two doors" gets you further than any amount of working out which trade it belongs to. Naming it is our job.
Can I just send photos?
Send them, and they genuinely help. What they cannot do is show what is under the existing paint. Photographs make the visit shorter rather than unnecessary.
How long does the visit take?
Usually half an hour for a room or two, longer for a whole house or an exterior.
Does somebody need to be home for it?
For an interior, yes, because half of it is questions about how you use the rooms. For an exterior, not necessarily, as long as there is access and somebody to talk to afterwards.
What if I am only getting numbers for insurance?
Say so and we handle it that way. Repair work through an assessor is a real share of what this business does, so the paperwork is familiar, and the standard does not change because somebody else is paying.
Ask the rest of them in person.
Half an hour in the room answers more than any amount of reading. Bring the questions that are not here.
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